Am I a DONK?
Generally when the flop is spread out, if you are holding a pocket pair that hits the flop (you now have three of a kind) you want to let other people bet into you to build the pot up. The only cards you need to be wary of at this point are JJ, if your opponents have them. There is potential that if someone is holding two spades that another spade will give them a flush and if they are holding, say, 8-9, then they have an opportunity to draw out a straight, but I'm not too worried about those right now. My plan is to check my hand, giving them the opportunity to bet and if they bet, I will raise them. This accomplishes two things. First, it gets more money into the pot, when I have a very strong hand. Second, it establishes me as the clear aggressor. If someone calls my bet when I come over the top of their bet, odds are that they have the Jacks or that they are betting heavily on the board drawing out to them, completing their hand. There's a lot of uncertainty in poker. My opponent is betting that his cards are going to fall and that he will be able to overpower my hand. I am betting that my hand is the strongest and that it could actually improve, as well. After all, if a 4 or a jack falls, I will have a full house.
All of this is fairly standard to this point, which one proviso...I am out of position. There is a term in poker called 'Donkey Betting' which is basically that i you are not the aggressor and you are in an inferior position, betting first is a low percentage play. Now there are varying theories an interpretations of what to do with that designation. There is the theory that you should defend your blinds and that good players usually do, rather than letting themselves get walked over by other players. There is the theory that if you make your 'donk bet' by betting out of position that you are sending the message that you are strong and should not be messed with. Often this is enough to make other players fold. On a deeper level of poker, there is the theory that you want to appear strong by donk betting, which is to say, you make that bet even though you are weak, essentially bluffing the other players. And there is the theory from the other side that position equals power and that if someone makes a donk bet, coming over the top of them from a superior table positioning makes this a very expensive hand for the donk bettor to be in. I am aware of all this. I am also aware that I have 777 and I am not ready to back down. I don't want to make an initial bet, scaring potential money out of the hand, but there are two spades on the board, and I have t protect against that, so I decide to put out a bet of $.48. there is now $1.52 in the pot and there are two players behind me. I have committed to the donk bet, which should tell the table two things: I am either very strong or I am very weak.
Incidentally, I have always found poker commentary incredibly interesting. The conclusions of the commentators on TV are rarely 'It's definitely this!' Rather, they are murky interpretations which are very nearly always worthless. "He's either very strong or very weak' pretty much runs the entire spectrum. And very often...most often actually, good players are playing middle cards which are neither very strong nor very weak. That's where the subtlety of reading people's body language comes in and it's why people see a showdown of 7-6 against 4-5 and think that they can play at that top pro level. But I digress...Back to my hand.
One opponent makes a bet of $1.30 and the third player folds. So now there's $2.82 in the pot. While you have to be wary of people playing possum and being tricky, there's really only one way to test whether they are or not. And that is to raise. Now with a flush possibility on the board, it might not be a bad idea for me to reraise this guy. I'm essentially saying to him that if he wants to get to that card that makes the flush, he's going to have to pay for it. On the other hand, there exists the potential that he has the Jacks or that he is just too darned stubborn to fold. Either of these scenarios means there will be a rather dramatic pot escalation. I would much rather see the next card before I get into that situation. Another card means more information. it could also be dangerous. If an 8,9, or 10 comes, there is now a potential completed straight on the board. If a spade comes there's a flush. If, however, something like an ace comes and it is not a spade, my cards will almost certainly be the best cards. But for now, I think we've done as much negotiating as we need to. I've made my declaration and he's answered. His bet size is a little more than 2.5x mine, so it's my guess that he's trying to get me off the pot. Generally at these levels, players are still trying to get their experience at things like sizing bets. Generally, a small bet looks strong, a strong bet looks weak. There's one hand that beats me, so I call. Also, he gave me 3.4:1 pot odds which means that if my odds of improving are greater than 3.4:1, I should fold. with three 4's, three Jacks and one 7 out there to give me a full house, I have 8 chances in the remaining 35 cards in the deck to make a full house. My odds on best hand are about 4.5:1. But I also factor in the fact that my hand is good, as it is against all pocket pairs, all Ace+something else combinations and that he probably actually needs two successive cards to make his hand superior to mine. If he's holding Jack+something else, even a good card like a king or an ace, he still needs another Jack. If he held a Jack and there were 2 left his odds would be 36:2 or 18:1 of catching that third jack. the general rule for calculating your odds quickly is number of outs*number of streets * 2. So he has two shots at 2 outs or an 8% chance. If he has a pocket pair higher than mine and manages to make trips on those last two cards, which would be rare, I think, I calculate 6 pairs (88,99,10-10,QQ,KK and AA) with two outs on each street. Each of those would have an 8% chance to hit trips, as well. I would say that according to pot odds, this is a marginal call, but according to the odds that I am going to commit money later anyway and that he will probably not make his hand, it's a good call.
Anyway, I feel that I am stronger here, so I just call.
The next card is a 10 of diamonds. So the straight potential is there. the flush potential is diminished. I decide that my play should be to check. First, this eliminates me from being the donkey, by giving way to the raiser. I am allowing him to dictate the action. But I am also setting a trap...in my mind at least. My guess is that he has a flush draw or a straight draw, If I come over teh top of the bet he is about to make and make my bet a strong one, with one card to go, his odds go way down. If he doesn't have it by now, it's going to be costly to get there. He bets $2 into a $3.64 pot, making it $5.64 total. So it costs me $2 now to see the next card. My pot odds are 5.6:2 or 2.8:1. The odds of me catching a card that makes my hand better have now actually increased because I can throw three 10's into the mix of cards that give me a full house plus th other 7. My card odds are now 10 out of the remaining 32 cards or 3.2:1. Although he's not giving me odds, I'm still not scared away. A bet on the turn is usually the defining point in the hand. Most people fold to a turn bet. If they don't fold, you know two thing: it's going to be a big pot and you're probably in trouble.
I raise, sending him the message that I am not folding and that I have a hand. My raise is to $4. Since he's already committed, he only has to put $2 more into the pot to win the $9.64 that's in there. I've left him with a marginal call, as well. If he happens to be holding a straight draw and a flush draw....say, 8-Q of spades or QK of spades or 5-6 of spades or 5-3 of spades, then he has nine flush draws and either 4 or 8 straight draws. (9+4)2=26%. (9+8)2=34%. I gave him 4.8:1 odds, which is about 17%. In this situation, I would say I am hosed. But if he's just hunting for another card to make his top pair better or to complete his trips, I am a favorite.
His response to my aggression is to push all of his chips in. It seems intimidating, but he has more chips than I do at this point. I have $6.96 left. He had $10.38. So while the stack is tall, a lot of it doesn't count, as he can only match what I have to lose. Anything extra gets returned. So even though al his chips are in and it looks like there's $18.38 on the table, there's actually $14.38. It would cost me my last $6.96 to win $14.38 which comes out to being 2.6:1 pot odds. My card odds have not changed, though. They are still 3.2:1 to improve my hand. And if my had as it is now holds up, which it will about 75% of the time, I am guessing (I have not checked that figure), then this is a probably a good call.
Interestingly , he has given me better and better pot odds with each street of betting. If he had committed all of those chips earlier, it would've told me that he had the Jacks, most likely, and I would've folded. Instead, we are here.
So I call.
We turn over the cards because we are both all-in. His extra is returned to him.
As is often the case, he shows J-A. Top pair with an ace kicker. So now all of the other possibilities are eliminated. He can be saved by a jack and a jack only.
The final card comes and it is a seven. I had the hand won, but this sealed the deal.
His comment to me afterwards was , 'Why did you take so long to call, DONK?!'
Sorry I inconvenienced you, mister (or miss, as the case may be). I was thinking. I replied that I was thinking and since when was that discouraged in poker. For me, this was not a hard decision and the entire hand went down in about a minute, which is an eternity in online poker. As for the guy's accusation, it was meant as a slam against my poker skills. I did bet out of position. Some would call this an aggressive tactic, like hitting the biggest guy in prison in the face on your first day in jail. Others call it foolishness. I like to think that I make a strong play and then dialed it back a notch, not giving up, but not going out of control, either.
But the hand made me think. Aren't we all donks? Aren't we all, or most of us anyway, born into a situation where we don't have the advantage? 98% of us fall in the category of people who do not have the majority of the wealth or influence. Sooner or later, we are all going to have to make your stand against the bullies who have superior chipstacks or position, or experience. Sometimes, you get your shot when you are out of position and you just have to make that donk bet and hope for the best.
In the final analysis, I guess I am a donk. But I have enough experience to know what to do with it and that being labeled is not enough to keep me down.